help needed Pembina Plum

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  1. phelsuma

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    help needed Pembina Plum-pruning/training

    I have a three year old pembina plum. My main problem with it is the top half of the main stem can not support itself. It droops big time. I have cut the main back the last two years but it has not helped. If I remove the stake the top half completly droops. I only have the top half staked to help it grow (training) straight. The bottom half of the tree is about as round as a silver dollar but the top half is very, very small (abut 2 cm). Also any help on how to prune the tree would be very helpful as it is a droopy variety of plum.

    The tree is about 9 feet tall. If I was to remove the stake four feet of the tree will droop...bend to form a half circle.

    Any feedback would be great.
     
  2. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    9' tall now and leggy with little lateral branching,
    is what I am assuming, will not be a good shape
    to continue on with. Clip the top back now and
    be done with it. New top growth will grow back
    but it is time to now train this tree for its eventual
    desired shape later. You may want to provide a
    photo or two of this tree so that others can join
    in and tell how they would prune this tree.

    Jim
     
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    The leader has grown 4 feet this summer and is green. It requires a stake to hold it up right (the stake is running up 3/4 of the leader but is not in the ground). Without the stake the top half of the tree bends down so much that it almost touches the ground. Is this normal or should I remove the stake and head it back until the leader no longer bends the tree down?

    The Plum was damaged from the hail a couple days ago but is doing fairly well.
     

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    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Here are a few things to consider. If the tree is left
    to grow like it is what kind of shape do you perceive
    it will have in another 10-12 years? Have you read
    up on the Pembina Plum and realize that you will
    probably have to have a pollinizer, another Plum to
    help your tree produce Plums?

    I would want to control the shape of this tree starting
    right now. How I would prune a production tree will
    be different than how I would prune a tree in a home
    garden. I would want to limit the top leader growth
    for a while as I am not sure this tree will fill out with
    enough side shoots for you in the near future. I would
    cut the top back to fence level and snip the rangy side
    laterals near the bottom in half wanting to promote
    more even growth towards the top and middle of this
    tree. Others may have better ideas for how you should
    deal and prune your tree for your location and climate
    but I think a consensus will be that you cut the top back
    some now or while this tree is dormant or you risk the
    top getting too far away from you rather soon.

    Jim
     
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    I do have two pollinators for it. Thanks for the advice on pruning the top. I have cut it back the previous two years. Also the two bottom side laterals have been cut back this year to the halfway point but the tree is vigorous in its growth and has reach the size it was before the cut. I will be removing them both. I will also be pruning the leader back to fence level also. I imagine it is best to prune in early spring?? I have heard that fall is also a good time? I have also been told that it would be alright to prune it back now?
     
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    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The best time to prune a Plum is when the tree
    is dormant but try not to do it in freezing weather.
    I will Summer prune some trees right after harvest
    if need be. Now is not a bad time to make quick
    adjustments such as topping the tree and cutting
    out overgrown limbs. We try not to prune Fruit
    Trees at all in the Spring here. Glad you have
    some Plum pollinizers. Good going!

    Enjoy having your Plums.

    Jim
     
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    Thank you for all your help. I ended up removing the tree as when I headed it and unstaked the tree I noticed that the leader was growning at a 65 degree angle. It also had alot of bark damage. Now that I know alot more about fruit trees I will make sure that I buy one that has a straight leader and no damage. Lesson learnt the hard way :)
     

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