UBC Botanical Garden Forums  

» UBC Botanical Garden


Go Back   UBC Botanical Garden Forums > Archives (no new threads) > Outdoor Tropicals

Post New ThreadReply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old December 7th, 2008, 08:57 AM
RogerB RogerB is offline
Registered (1-2 posts)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Alicante Spain
Posts: 1
Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

When my wife died here on Spain's Costa Blanca, just over a year ago, my neighbours asked if they could plant a tree in memory of her, and asked what she'd have liked.
I said, without hesitation "A jacaranda"...so we got one from the garden centre and planted it late last Autumn.

They are not uncommon in this area and often bloom twice, the main show being in Spring before the new leaves appear.
"Bobbie's Tree" has a single trunk about 2+ inches/5cm thick which has had the side-shoots removed, and it branched-out into a 'triple-Y' shape, about 7ft/2m+ above ground.

It appears to have established well, made several more side shoots and quite a lot of foliage, but no flowers....which I didn't really expect in its first year.

My question is: is there anything I can do to increase its chances of becoming more vigorous and blooming as soon as possible?
The general opinion seems to be not to prune, although the 'expert' at the garden centre advised me that I should, and I see that the (more mature) roadside specimens in the local town appear to be 'pollarded' annually and seem OK.
OTOH many very healthy garden specimens appear to have been left alone and have often developed multiple stems.
I am naturally anxious not to set-back its development.
They are beautiful trees which I first encountered in Southern Africa.

Any expert advice would be welcomed ....this is my first post in this forum...apologies for its length :)

Roger
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 19th, 2009, 03:39 PM
bertoli55's Avatar
bertoli55 bertoli55 is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 98
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Hi RogerB
Jacarandas are one of my favourite trees - they do really well in Australia so I guess that they do equally well in Spain. I wouldn't prune your tree, they do branch out naturally. There are a lot of jacarandas as street trees here and some are really badly shaped after being badly pruned.
Be patient and enjoy your tree -the flowers and ferny foliage are magnificent, I even like the seed pods :). I spent many hours climbing in a jacaranda at my parent's place when I was a little kid. Good luck with your tree.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 19th, 2009, 03:45 PM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Don't prune it! If you allow it its natural shape it will be a much better tree as it matures. It won't bloom for at least another two years (this is my experience with Jacaranda in Ecuador) but it will continue to get stronger and taller, and will branch out and fill out as it ages. With the young Jacaranda I see here, they tend to look a bit spindly and twee until about 5-6 years after planting, and then they fill out beautifully.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 05:57 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I have one that is allegedly about 11 years old about 8 foot tall and quite a thin trunk in comparison. How do I get the trunk to fatten up? It does look like it has been pruned in the past.

Can I post photo's of it on this board to show the details.


Regards Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:22 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Is it outdoors in the wind, or in a sheltered place? Ones in windy locations will get thicker faster. Please post pics!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:26 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

It is still it its pot and I have it indoors at the moment but our site outside can be very windy at times. I am considering planting it in the next few weeks.


Regards Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:27 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Once it's outdoors in the elements it will begin to tougen up and thicken - wind resistance is what gives the ones here their lovely thick trunks.

Oh, Bangor, Maine; Bangor, Pakistan; or somewhere else entirely?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:36 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Bangor, County Down Northern Ireland.

I had some smaller ones growing a few years ago they lasted about 3 years old grown from very small seedlings they were about 4 foot tall.

We had a very long dark winter which lasted about 5 months of overcast skies and no sunshine at all, this killed the 3 I had planted in the ground, the one in it's pot came back the next spring. I thought that the planted ones would have survived and the potted one died???

I have 2 now, the potted survivor and a larger one I got last year, the 11 year old one.


Regards Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:48 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

You need to insulate the in-ground ones, I think. Our wet-season is very similar to your winter - 4-5 months of heavy clouds and rain and hardly any sunshine, and they seem to survive it OK, but I'm sure you get colder in Eire than I do in Ecuador. You might try leaving them in their pots outside for the first year, that way you can easily bring them in if they look like they're suffering.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 06:50 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I forgot to mention, they both stay out doors during the spring, summer and autmn, they only come in doors during the winter.

Regards Andy
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 07:05 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

That's sensible.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 07:25 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Iorax,

Many thanks for your replies, just wondering whether to try planting one again?
What sort of protection would it need until it gets established?

I think once that they have survived a few years in the ground and have thickened up on the trunk a wee bit more, I think that they should be OK, the trick is to get them to that stage first though.

There are some large ones in the south west of the UK in Torquay, Devon, that have been there for years and do flower as well. My climate here is similar and we are blessed by the Gulf Stream. This winter whilst the most of UK has been gripped by Snow, Blizzards and temps averaging around -10C we have only had a few -1.9C's several just sub zero temps and one excursion down to -2.9C. So all in all quite a mild winter climate really, the worst case was a -6C about 9 years ago and that was the lowest for over 15 years.

I have 32 different species of Palm Tree growing quite happily here, most without any protection at all including Juania australis and Parajubaea torallyii


Regards Andy.

Last edited by AJQ; March 2nd, 2009 at 07:27 AM. Reason: Spelling
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 07:48 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Until it's established, I'd be protecting it from the cold (which it will perceive as cold, even if you don't) during the wintertime - wrapping it in burlap or something similar usually does the trick. If you get very windy, you may want to support the trunk with wires until it's larger. Other than that, it should do OK if your weather is what you say it is.

Do you have Parajubaea cocoides? It sounds like your climate would be ideal for it.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 2nd, 2009, 09:23 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I have 2 Torallyii and a microcarpa, the torallyii are the fastest, the microcarpa has not really done too much this last 18 months. Most palms need about 3 years to establish though so I am not unduly worried about it just yet
Rgds Andy
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 20th, 2009, 03:53 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

What is the best fertilizer for Jacarandas?
How often would you apply it?
I have some "palm booster" which encourages root growth which I shall be applying too.

Rgds Andy
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old March 20th, 2009, 05:10 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I've always found balanced ferts to be best, and I'm also a great advocate of planting a fish near the base. I fertilize twice a year, but then again I am working in a mix of extremely rich rainforest humus and volcanic soils.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old March 20th, 2009, 05:31 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Planting a Fish????
What sort of Fish?
A dead One?

Confused................???
Rgds Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old March 20th, 2009, 07:17 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Lol, yes, a dead one. I use a catfish because it's easy to catch them in the local river. You can use whatever catch of the day. I find that a fish has about the right blend of nutrients for trees.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old August 18th, 2012, 07:25 AM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I finally decided to plant it, it has been in the ground over a year and half now. I put a mini green house over it last winter and it has come on really well. The wind has helped with the trunk starting to fatten up now :-)

Rgds Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old August 18th, 2012, 08:06 AM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

I'm glad to hear it!
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old August 18th, 2012, 01:25 PM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

How would i get a photo up on here?

Rgds Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old August 18th, 2012, 02:19 PM
lorax's Avatar
lorax lorax is offline
In search of the Truffula Trees.
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ecuador SA Zone 12/13
Posts: 4,774
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

How to attach images.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old August 21st, 2012, 03:35 PM
AJQ AJQ is offline
Registered Plus (3-99 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangor, Norin Iron.
Posts: 13
Re: Care of young Jacaranda Tree?

Thanks for that, will try to get some photos for you in the next few days or so. Working away from home at the moment, so try to get something up when i get back to my PC.

Regards Andy.
Reply With Quote
Post New ThreadReply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
where can i buy a young monkey puzzle tree ? grahammarshall Araucariaceae 4 December 6th, 2010 06:20 AM
Possible fertilizer burn on a young Mountain Ash tree Harlow Woody Plants 1 May 24th, 2008 03:41 PM
How to promote tree growth for young Meyer lemon tree lemongirl07 Citrus 7 June 11th, 2007 09:28 AM
Where to plant my young Desert Fig tree? epicureangirl Fruit and Nut Trees 0 August 20th, 2006 03:54 PM
Young grapefruit tree needs help! PuraVida42 Citrus 1 January 18th, 2006 03:09 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2001-2011, University of British Columbia Botanical Garden & Centre for Plant Research