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  1. timmer

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    Can anyone give me an ID of this plant? It is growing wild in a potential restoration site. It looks somewhat Petasites but I can't seem to pin it down. It is about 4 feet tall, with very large leaves (foot and a half). Also - I assume it is a non-native to Washington State and wondering if anyone has seen it become a problem (spreading, weedy, etc).
     

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    Thanks - That is what I thought it was. My problem is that the japonicus seems to have a different shaped leaf. This one the stem is attached to the center of the leaf (see another photo I've attached), whereas japonicus seems to be attached on the side with a kind of heart-shaped lobe around it (for example where the guy's hand is being 'eaten').

    What do you think? Perhaps it was just some individual variety that I was looking at.
     

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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Hmmm... right you are. I missed that detail when first looking at it.

    How far is this site from some sort of disturbance (e.g., residential neighbourhood, power-line right-of-way)?

    I've had a look at the native Petasites species, and those can be ruled out. That inflorescence growing beneath the leaves sure reminds me of Petasites, but I've never seen one with a peltate leaf before.
     
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    It is in an area of past disturbance. The property has recently switched hands and the current landowner doesn't know the plant. It is actually growing on the edge of a small bamboo plantation where the prior landowner was harvesting bamboo. It is in a wetter area near a small ephemeral stream. The bamboo and this plant definitly give the area a tropical asian feel. I am assuming (perhaps wrongly) that this plant was planted as an ornamental. Maybe I'll try to track down the prior landowner.

    I agree that it definitely looks Petasites and the size is japonicus. Hmmm. No matter what it is - being a restoration site and non-native - I will try to control it.
     
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    Shieldleaf (Astilboides tabularis) perhaps?

    HTH
    Chris
     
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    Yes that is what it is.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I'd considered Astilboides tabularis, but the inflorescence seems to be off (if that's indeed the inflorescence of this plant in the second photograph). Would it be possible to get a scan / better photo of the inflorescence?
     
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    There is a Rodgersia with those kind of roundish leaves.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I just had a look at both plants outside my office - the petioles aren't smooth on either of the two, though rougher on the Astilboides. Seems to me that the Astilboides petioles would capture the light in a photo in a way that's been shown here. And, on third glance, I'm not certain that the inflorescence in image 2 belongs to this plant. So, I'm now leaning toward what saltcedar and levilya suggested.
     
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    Those ideas look good to me. I'll take a closer look at the inflourescence next time I'm in the area. Thanks for all the help.
     

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