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  1. email4pat

    email4pat New Member

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    it is a cactus . Please let me know common or scientific name
     
  2. Eric La Fountaine

    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Neither is really a cactus. The big plant is either Kalanchoe luciae or Kalanchoe thyrsiflora--they look very similar, you need flowers to tell them apart. Not sure on the last one.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Surely one of the variegated Echeveria cultivars.
     
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    Kalanchoe thrysifolia
    Echeveria hybrid
     
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    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Lysichiton Active Member

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    Eric, I am lucky enough to be sitting in th uk with a gentleman who has seen both species of kalanchoes in habitat (madagascar) and in cultivation; he says k thrysifolia. Me, I'm glad to learn a bit.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I'll make things a bit more confusing, maybe.

    1) No such thing as Kalanchoe thyrsifolia -- a thyrse is a type of inflorescence, so K. thyrsiflora would be correct, BUT...

    2) Kalanchoe thyrsiflora is now recognized as being a synonym of Kalanchoe tetraphylla, so that is the name that should be used.
     
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    Douglas Justice Well-Known Member UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society 10 Years

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    Both Echeveria and Aeonium are rosette-leaved succulents in the Crassulaceae. Aeonium species are primarily Canary Islands endemics, while Echeveria is a Central American genus. From what I recall (of an admittedly small sample), Echeveria have one to many usually one-sided, axillary, unbranched or sparsely branched inflorescences (cincinni), with 5-merous, fleshy flowers usually in shades of orange or pink, while Aeonium usually have a radially symmetric, terminal paniculate inflorescence (thryrses, I think) (one per rosette) with up-facing 6- to 12-merous, flimsy yellow flowers. Although probably not universal traits, the leaves of Echeveria are thicker, shorter, less fibrous and more boat-shaped. I'm happy to be corrected on the characteristics of these fascinating plants.

     

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