can you id these 2 plants?

new to the forum and new to gardening, I've been trying to ID these 2 plants but can't find their names. I would like to look up how to care for them and how to propogate the vine-like one. The shrub with the tiny white flowers is about 2.5 feet tall. The vine is quite bushy and is growing on a fence. Can anyone help? Thanks!

 

2 maybe Lysimachia clethroides?

Welcome to the Forum!

 

that looks like it! Thanks I've been trying all sorts of plant identificaton websites and google images but couldn't find it. You beat the internet!

 

First one resembles poison ivy.

 

Not poison ivy -- seems to have opposite leaves though it isn't particularly clear. Ranunculaceae? (Clematis?)

 

I'm pretty sure the first one is a clematis. Does it have any flowers on it at all?

 

I go along with Clematis. Time will tell.

 

Thanks, I've been looking over clematis photos and I think that could be it.

no flowers whatsover when we moved in in mid-July, but I didn't see it in the springtime would the flowers have been gone by mid-July?