In The Garden: Some question about flowers in Aster family

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  1. Nadia White Rock

    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I have some ID question about flowers in Aster family
    1.VanDusen, dry flowers garden. Picture from August.
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    2.Very old picture, can be from Japan
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    3. UBC garden, picture from May.
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    4. Almost 10 years old picture from October
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    5.I have to post this one first, because I am the most curious to know the name of these flowers. Probably VanDusen garden,August
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    #1 - Xeranthemum annuum
    #2 - Aster sp. (probably something like A. ageratoides or A. trinervius)
    #4 - Helianthus sp.
    #5 - Gaillardia sp.
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Are you sure about Gaillardia? I was thinking about it but when I google no pictures like these flowers
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    5 looks like something in the Helenieae tribe, with flowers widest at the tip. Gaillardia is in that tribe, but others I see with petals like that are Helenium, like Helenium autumnale, Coreopsis (C. lanceolata) and a lot of other names I've never heard of.
     
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    Yes, I am fairly certain about that. What might mislead you is the enormous amount of hybrids that were selected for qualities such as dense, bicolored ray florets and more compact growth.
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thank you. I agree with Gaillardia. What about N3?
     
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    Tanacetum coccineum.
     
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    The look of seed heads in Nadia's photo is typical for Gaillardia http://isotria.blogspot.ca/2011/07/summer-wildflower-seeds.html
    Here is how Helenium autumnale seed heads look like: http://www.nativeplant.com/plant_images/HELAUT/helaut_seedheads.jpg
    and here is Coreopsis (C. lanceolata) http://isotria.blogspot.ca/2011/07/summer-wildflower-seeds.html a little more down the page.

    Ditto to # 3: Tanacetum coccineum
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thanks for posting those, Nadia, and for the replies, Axel and Sundrop. What a totally confusing family that is. I was so surprised to learn that some Tacacetum have ray flowers, not to mention that Pyrethrum now has that name.
     

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