3 Brazilian ferns for ID please

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  1. bonitin

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    Hi,

    I met the following ferns during my wanderings in the rainforest in the area of Paraty, Brazil in January 2010. Hopefully someone can help me to ID them..
    Thanks! 2 pictures of each..
    Myriam
     

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    I found the ID of the last one; it is Microgramma percussa.
     
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    First 2 photos may be Dicranopteris pectinata.
     
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    3rd and 4th could possibly be Elaphoglossum - a genus of over 500 species!
     
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    Dear bonitin: the first two photos (terrestrial plant) are Gleichenella pectinata (Willd.) Ching (Gleicheniaceae). The next two (the epiphytes with adherent rhizomes) are Microgramma vacciniifolia (Langsd. & Fisch.) Copel. and (the epiphytes with pending rhizomes) Microgramma geminata (Schrad.) R.M.Tryon & A.F.Tryon).
    Best wishes from Brazil!
     
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    Hi Vinicinus!:)
    Thank you so much for your reply! Sorry for the late response, I hadn't checked again as it was so long ago I had posted that thread.
    So great too you have given all the correct ID's!

    Thank you so much,
    Myriam (I am missing Brazil, I hope I can go back next winter!)
     
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    You're welcome, Myriam. It's very nice to take a look on some ferns sometimes...
    Greetings from Brazil,
    Vinícius
     
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    Seems I was right on one, namely Dicranopteris pectinata = Gleichenella pectinata, but quite wrong about the Microgramma spp. - wrong family even! It appears that separating of D. pectinata into genus Gleichenella is increasingly accepted by pteridologists, judging from the references in the Tropicos database.
     
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    Thank you Tony! As far as I understand Dicranopteris pectinata became the synonym of Gleichenella pectinata?

    Myriam
     
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    Yes, if you accept that Gleichenella pectinata is the appropriate classification, then Dicranopteris pectinata is a synonym. They are different names for the same species.
     
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    3 Brazilian !!! *holds pinky to lip* Thats a lot of ferns !
     
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    Dear Tony: yes, pteridologists are accepting Gleichenella as a distinct genus, with several consistent differences between it and Dicranopteris and / or Sticherus, the two other genera found in neotropics.
    All the best,
    Vinícius
     

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