Aster family

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  1. Nadia White Rock

    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Some plants from aster family

    1. Eriophyllum? June,UBCBG
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    2.Wild flower along highway in BC, July
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    3.August, native to BC?
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    4.Probably UBCBG, July
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    5.Felicia? October
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    Axel Active Member

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    #1 - Ditto to Eriophyllum.
    #3 - Conyza (canadensis?) sp. - well, probably
    #4 - Melampodium divaricatum (Often mislabelled as M. paludosum in horticulture)
    #5 - Brachyscome sp.
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thank you very much!
    I don't know how you can see difference in all these aster family plants:)
     
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    # 2 Tragopogon
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thank you. i would never find that name
     
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    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Phyllaries are short - should be Tragopogon pratensis.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    That was all new to me, but I found a page that explains what to look at:
    http://www.weedinfo.ca/en/weed-index/view/id/TROPR
    Phyllaries are involucral bracts, which is the term used on that page.
     
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    Thank you Andrey for pointing this out. Not being a botanist I have never paid attention to how short or long are phyllaries.

    As Wendy's link says:
    So, it looks like there are many mislabeled images on the Net like, for example, here http://www.aphotoflora.com/d_tragopogon_pratensis_goats_beard_jack_go_to_bed_at_noon.html This image also shows on the right of the screen when you search with Google for Tragopogon pratensis https://www.google.ca/search?q=tragopogon+pratensis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RklUVLLUKamV8QfG4YCgCw#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&q=tragopogon+pratensis.
    Bing and Yahoo seem to be more reliable!

    Still, I feel a little confused, since aphotoflora.com looks rather like a reliable website?
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Mislabeled images on the net? You're kidding! ;)
     
  10. Andrey Zharkikh

    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Errors are everywhere. I was sending corrections (accepted) to CalPhoto, UVU Herbarium, many personal sites. When you deal with just species description or ambiguous key, the errors are unavoidable. An illustrated species comparison, like the Wendy's link, are much more useful. I made my personal illustrated key for many Utah plants, which helps a lot. Unfortunately, it cannot be public, as I use many copyrighted images, which I am trying to replace with my own. But collectively, such a useful tool can be created if there are sufficient number of enthusiasts and a reliable place on the internet.
     

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